| 言論內容 |
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| I agree with Richard said the message on 2000/3/3 09:31:44. "Those who are sincere enough to try, courageous enough to continue or experienced to lead become "core-group" members (or gold members). " | Joyce Tam 3/6/2000 11:11:32 |  |
| Simon, I think it is "No problem" to separate main groups like that. | Joyce Tam 3/6/2000 11:07:33 | |
| Simon說的也不錯！牛牛支持你！但有沒有機會和其他組的人一起吃飯，那各組的人可以有聯絡和認識啊！ | tonycow 3/5/2000 23:02:47 |  |
| 我自己的天體行為就相當充實,每天都自然地進行,辦活動只是想提供機會給其他有興趣人仕,及讓那些衛道之士有機會認識什麼是自然及健康的天體行為,我已經全力以赴,四次活動的小食及飲品共五佰多元都無向各位收取,正是出錢出力,但經驗所限,安排不週,還請各位體諒吧! 我本人好支持民主,但我都想獨裁一次,以下的決定希望大家支持一下吧!我提意第一組的參加者將以夫婦或情侶為參加條件,第二組為單身人仕,第三組為任何人仕,而第一二組各有六人為當然成員(首次委任,之後由投票選出),如非同組的參加者想參加當組的活動,就由此六人決定是否接納,不知各位意下如何?? | Simon 3/5/2000 19:47:19 |  |
| I think the separaton into three groups is a good idea. The freedom to choose to join which group is also important (with strict clothing regulation enforced). As with new members, why not just have a meeting in a regular way to get familiarized, then the new member can choose which group to join. | J.K. 3/4/2000 01:22:52 | |
| simon也說的對！希望快些有活動吧！ 牛牛去不到camp了！因忙於功課，但如平日有活動的話，牛牛一定出現． | tonycow 3/3/2000 21:16:42 | |
| GiGi:請妳展開第一步,先參加初級聚會吧!!! | Simon 3/3/2000 18:26:45 |  |
| tonycow:如果有一位參加者每次都參加,但每次都做四不像,又點計呢? | Simon 3/3/2000 18:22:36 | |
| Excuse me. The below message is posted by me. | Richard 3/3/2000 09:32:58 | |
| Now technical problems come up. By creating a selecting system, we become either too bureaucratic or too subjective. May I suggest that we call for a "no-clothes-allowed" party for everybody, in which views of nudism are shared and exchanged in an easy atmosphere (no Majong or TV, please). Program like that may be so serious that peeping-Tom will stay away from it, while people who really want to engage in nudist activities have chances to know about them. After this party,I beleive, we know at least who are enthusiatic supporters. Those who are sincere enough to try, courageous enough to continue or experienced to lead become "core-group" members (or gold members). Those who have tried but feel uncomfortable can move back to the silver group and even the copper group. Those who join later begin with the copper membership. | r 3/3/2000 09:31:44 | |
| 我想參加，但伯部份不脫衣服的人存心"裝人 | GiGi 3/2/2000 23:11:12 | |
| 如以simon的眼去判斷會不會太主觀啊？或許以出席次數來衡量會好些． | tonycow 3/2/2000 22:40:46 | |
| In additional of the class member idea, I have already noticed that there are some active and real members who can be the Golden member in here. But we have to avoid those "just looking" and "not real" people around. And I am sure Simon can easily judge who can be the Golden Member or not very soon. | Joyce Tam 3/2/2000 10:12:13 | |
| Richard, I think everyone should be the Copper Class at the begining. but just keep in faith that you will be the Golden Class or higher class soon because you are a value and experted member in here. | Joyce Tam 3/2/2000 10:00:18 | |
| Simon's idea is reasonable, although it means that I have to join the first class first. | Richard 3/2/2000 09:25:56 | |
| 分三組人也好啊! 致少大家可以說得開心些. 如有機會的話牛牛也想一起去行山啊! (但要牛牛的功課不太忙的時候) | tonycow 3/1/2000 20:20:07 | |
| Richard:我個人認為第一次的參加者全部都是初級,之後才有選擇權,請問你意下如何??? | Simon 3/1/2000 17:09:17 |  |
| Fair and liberal discussions always lead to fruitful conclusion! That's why TonyCow does not need to say sorry to me. I also like the three-class system initiated by Joyce. May I suggest that members should be free to choose which class they want to join. However, after joining a class, they must strictly follow the regulations and "dress code" | Richard 3/1/2000 16:59:21 | |
| 牛牛:希望你的身體在日後能表達更多更多的東西,更多謝你贊助了一佰八十元給我們的繪畫班作為經費. | Simon 3/1/2000 16:49:39 |  |
| A Chai:因這個星期的天氣太差了,下星期如天氣好轉我一定找你帶路,完成這個壯舉!!! | Simon 3/1/2000 16:43:59 | |
| Joyce Tam:妳的提議十分好,為何不早點提出,我們日後的活動就用三級制吧! | Simon 3/1/2000 16:37:18 | |
| TonyCow, J.K--I agree with you that nudism should be more "Enjoyable and comfortable". Richard, A Chai--I agree that Mid March is still cool for outdoor activities. How about a cloth on activities, so members can get to know each other more and get to know who is "just looking" or real nudist. Albert-- I agree with you that Simon shouldn't give up after the last gathering. Francis, Alfred--The last gathering is not very good. But your opinion and your experience can help to improve it for the future. "Roman is not build by a day" and it need all our hard works. | Joyce Tam 3/1/2000 14:07:01 | |
| After reading a page of messge, I have some suggestions want to share with you all. 1) We should give some credits to Simon who works so hard on this free speech newsgroup and organizing activities to encourage local nudism. 2) It is not bad to have more than 10 persons to show up at last gathering although there are many thing need to improve in next time. 3) separate members into 3 main groups. a) Copper members(new members)--wear with clothes, not active members, and the members who may just want to look only. b) Silver members(join gathering for a period of time)--members are OK to be nude in front others members, clothes optional. c) Gold members(active members)--nudist and know the correct way of nudism. 4) separate gatherings and functions into 3 stages. a) common activities--wear on clothes (for copper and new members) b)intermedia activities--clothes options(mix with nudist and potential members). c) nudism activities--without clothes.(regular activities). THose are my personal ideas only. Hope the future activities will be more successful. | Joyce Tam 3/1/2000 13:43:44 | |
| Richard兄，如果牛牛有什何誤會，希望原諒．牛牛只想希望大家不會懼怕行山．而令一方面希望大家要量力而為．牛牛亦認為天體活動在室外或室內沒有分別，最重要是要享受那感覺． | tonycow 3/1/2000 02:50:01 | |
| Didn't I say that going hiking (naked or not) is dangerous in Hong Kong? I have never worried about robbery. What I said is "the fluctuating weather may cause a lot of troubles" e.g. heavy rain begins to fall when the group is half way up the hill, a member in the group feels sick because the temperature falls drastically, etc. I am not the organizer of the activity. Nor was I a participant in any events organzied by Simon. As I have reiterated, I just spell out my suggestion and expect your response. If you guys think that going out is a better idea, why don't I try? | Richard 2/29/2000 23:50:10 |
